talkhaus: let there be speech!

[tatanga]

I think you should make a thread for this, and then you can ask people directly for move updates/opinions/whatever. Could be cool

talkhaus: let there be speech!

This is a pokemon red hack that will be based off cool stuff/users from the talkhaus. I'm planning on changing all the text, trainers, pokemon, pretty much everything except for the maps (although these will be edited, just not completely redone).

I'm open to all suggestions but I'm not guaranteeing everything suggested will be included. Here are some of my tentative plans, feel free to find problems with them and suggest better options:

raocow replaces Oak

Elite Four
TLs4
Argumentable
SayAnything
Thissa

Pokemon
I need some good ideas for pokemon, I don't have too much planned so far:
Paste replaces Farfetch'd

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Don Zanevsky-->Bokobono-->Wareng Teng (I don't have too many ideas for ones with three evolutions yet)

also I'd like to replace all (or at least most) of the moves with talkhaus relevant ones.

Cities
Graveyard replaces Lavender Town

(btw if any of you would rather be something else/don't want to be involved let me know)

So pretty much if you have any good ideas or good text that you feel needs to be in, let me know, because I know you guys probably have a lot of ideas!

also forgot to say that I have a video of the first part of the hack, but it's having trouble uploading. I'll post it as soon as it uploads.

[Dan]

I demand that Blinx and I be starters. Blinx -> Blinxed -> Service, maybe? I don't fucking know. Also it's teng, not tang. Also, I sort of think Thissa would be more suited for a Bill replacement (the all-knowing nerd who is seldom seen) Don't worry, I will be back with millions of horrible ideas and a few good ones.

[Sillyman]

So uh apparently I'm the official note taker guy. So here, have some lists of things we need to replace that we can track in an orderly manner.

Places!

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Pallet Town
Viridian City
Viridian Forest
Diglett's Cave
Pewter City
Mt. Moon
Cerulean City
Unknown Dungeon
Sea Cottage
Vermillion City
Rock Tunnel
Power Plant
Lavender Town - The Graveyard
Celadon City - Let's Play
Saffron City
Fuschia City
Safari Zone - The Gazebo
Seafoam Islands
Cinnabar Island
Victory Road
Indigo Plateau

Pokemon Fan Club - raocow Fan Club

People!

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ELITE FOUR:
Lorelei
Bruno - SayAnything
Agatha - Argumentable
Lance - Tls4
RIVAL {NEW NAME, BDS, 2, 3}

GYM LEADERS:
Brock
Misty
Surge
Erika
Sabrina
Koga
Blaine
Geovanni

SUPPORTING CAST:
Mom
Professor Oak
Bill - Thissa
Rival's Sister
PLAYER {NEW NAME, TT, 2, 3}
Pokemon raocow Fan Club Head - Darkbuu

TRAINERS:
Bug Catcher
Jr. Trainer <Male>
Jr. Trainer <Female>
Lass
Youngster
Supernerd
Hiker
Rocket - SMWCer
Swimmer
Gentleman
Sailor
Gambler
Engineer
Pokemaniac
Channeler
Beauty
Blackbelt
Scientist
Juggler
Psychic
Biker
Cueball
Birdkeeper
Tamer
Fisherman
Burglar
Cooltrainer <Male>
Cooltrainer <Female>

[Sillyman]

Pokemon!

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001: Boko
Height: ???
Weight: ???
Description: ???
002: Bokobono
Height: ???
Weight: ???
Description: ???
003: Warengteng
Height: ???
Weight: ???
Description: ???
004: Ocard
Height: ???
Weight: ???
Description: ???
005: Draco
Height: ???
Weight: ???
Description: ???
006: OC
Height: ???
Weight: ???
Description: ???
007: Blinx
Height: ???
Weight: ???
Description: ???
008: Blanx
Height: ???
Weight: ???
Description: ???
009: Blonx
Height: ???
Weight: ???
Description: ???
010: Caterpie
011: Metapod
012: Butterfree
013: Weedle
014: Kakuna
015: Beedrill
016: Pidgey
017: Pidgeotto
018: Pidgeot
019: Souris
Height: ???
Weight: ???
Description: ???
020: Chaman
Height: ???
Weight: ???
Description: ???
021: Spearow
022: Fearow
023: Ekans
024: Arbok
025: Pikachu
026: Raichu
027: Sandshrew
028: Sandslash
029: Nidoran (F)
030: Nidorina
031: Nidoqueen
032: Nidoran (M)
033: Nidorino
034: Nidoking
035: Clefairy
036: Clefable
037: Tails
Height: ???
Weight: ???
Description: ???
038: Eightails
Height: ???
Weight: ???
Description: ???
039: Jigglypuff
040: Wigglytuff
041: Zubat
042: Golbat
043: Oddish
044: Gloom
045: Vileplume
046: Paras
047: Parasect
048: Venonat
049: Venomoth
050: Diglett
051: Dugtrio
052: Meowth
053: Persian
054: Psyduck
055: Golduck
056: Mankey
057: Primeape
058: Growlithe
059: Arcanine
060: Poliwag
061: Poliwhirl
062: Poliwrath
063: Abra
064: Kadabra
065: Alakazam
066: Machop
067: Machoke
068: Machamp
069: Bellsprout
070: Weepinbell 
071: Victreebel
072: Tentacool
073: Tentacruel
074: Geodude
075: Graveler 
076: Golem
077: Ponyta
078: Rapidash
079: Slowpoke
080: Slowbro
081: Magnemite
082: Magneton
083: Paste
Height: ???
Weight: ???
Description: The bottle of booze it holds has been empty for days. It attempts to drink every drop.
084: Doduo
085: Dodrio
086: Seel
087: Dewgong
088: Grimer
089: Shitpost
  Height: ???
  Weight: ???
  Description: ???
090: Shellder
091: Cloyster
092: Gastly
093: Haunter
094: Gengar
095: Onix
096: Drowzee
097: Hypno
098: Krabby
099: Kingler
100: Voltorb
101: Electrode
102: Exeggcute
103: Exeggutor
104: Cubone
105: Marowak
106: Hitmonlee
107: Hitmonchan
108: Lickitung
109: Koffing
110: Weezing
111: Rhyhorn
112: Rhydon
113: Chansey
114: Tangela
115: Kangaskhan 
116: Horsea
117: Seadra
118: Goldeen
119: Seaking
120: Staryu
121: Starmie
122: [AOD]
  Height: ???
  Weight: ???
  Description: ???
123: Scyther
124: Jynx
125: Electabuzz
126: Magmar
127: Pinsir
128: Tauros
129: Magikarp
130: Gyrados
131: Lapras
132: Billy
Height: ???
Weight: ???
Description: ???
133: Eevee
134: Vaporeon
135: Jolteon
136: Flareon
137: Porygon
138: Omanyte
139: Omastar
140: Kabuto
141: Kabutops
142: Aerodactyl
143: Snorlax
144: Articuno
145: Zapdos
146: Moltres
147: Dratini
148: Dragonair
149: Dragonite
150: Mewtwo
151: Mew

Powers!

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Absorb
Acid
Acid Armor
Agility - Spambot
Amnesia - The Rest
Aurora Beam
Barrage
Barrier
Bide
Bind
Bite
Blizzard
Body Slam
Bone Club
Bonemerang
Bubble
Bubblebeam
Clamp
Comet Punch
Confuse Ray
Confusion - idgi
Constrict
Conversion
Counter - Masterstroke
Crabhammer - Banhammer
Cut
Defense Curl
Dig
Disable
Dizzy Punch
Double Kick
Double Team - Lurk
Double-edge
Doubleslap
Dragon Rage
Dream Eater
Drill Peck
Earthquake
Egg Bomb
Ember
Explosion - Permaban
Fire Blast
Fire Punch
Fire Spin - Spinning Fire
Fissure - Your scumn
Flamethrower
Flash
Fly
Focus Energy
Fury Attack
Fury Swipes
Glare
Growl
Growth - Postcount++
Guillotine
Gust
Harden
Haze
Headbutt
Hi Jump Kick
Horn Attack
Horn Drill
Hydro Pump
Hyper Beam
Hyper Fang
Hypnosis
Ice Beam
Ice Punch
Jump Kick
Karate Chop
Kinesis
Leech Life
Leech Seed
Leer
Lick
Light Screen
Lovely Kiss
Low Kick
Meditate
Mega Drain
Mega Kick
Mega Punch
Metronome - Meme
Mimic
Minimize
Mirror Move - Emptyquote
Mist
Night Shade
Pay Day
Peck
Petal Dance
Pin Missile
Poison Gas
Poison Sting
Poisonpowder
Pound
Psybeam
Psychic
Psywave
Quick Attack - Ninja Post
Rage
Razor Leaf
Razor Wind
Recover - Edit
Reflect
Rest
Roar - CAPS LOCK
Rock Slide
Rock Throw
Rolling Kick
Sand-Attack
Scratch
Screech
Seismic Toss
Selfdestruct - Ban
Sharpen
Sing
Skull Bash
Sky Attack
Slam
Slash
Sleep Powder
Sludge
Smog
Smokescreen
Softboiled
Solarbeam
Sonicboom
Spike Cannon
Splash - Mariofan1000
Spore
Stomp
Strength
String Shot
Struggle
Stun Spore
Submission
Substitute
Super Fang
Supersonic
Surf
Swift
Swords Dance
Tackle - Post
Tail Whip
Take Down
Teleport - Log Out
Thrash
Thunder
Thunder Wave
Thunderbolt
Thunderpunch
Thundershock
Toxic
Transform
Tri Attack
Twineedle
Vicegrip
Vine Whip
Water Gun
Waterfall
Whirlwind
Wing Attack
Withdraw
Wrap

Throw Rock - Troll
Throw Bait - Good Post

[randoguy101]

Technically you don't have to follow the same format of "we can have this many cities/routes/whatever." What we need to know is which room directly connects to another (eg: walking directly from a route to a city and vice versa), and, of course, how many rooms are in the game physically.

[tatanga]

Here's a messy list of possible ideas from a #talkhaus log. Nothing is really set in stone yet, so all suggestions are valid! If there are more than one suggestion on a line please post and say which you like best.

also Sillyman, whenever anything is decided, if you could edit the info into your lists that would be great

People/Pokemon Replacements

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??? - Cobalt
??? - Sillyman
??? - OC
??? - Pako-->Impako
??? - Don Zanevsky-->Bokobono-->Wareng Teng
Main character - Time Traveler
Rival - BlackDS
Jigglypuff, Mom, Sillyman's Girlfriend - Demo
Head of Pkmn fan club - Darkbuu, head of raocow fan club
Muk - Shitpost
Lickitung, Ekans - Jasssmin
Mr. Mime - [AOD]
Tauros, Misty - Impako
Bill - Thissa
Lance - TLs4
Agatha - Argumentable
Bruno - SayAnything
Lorelei - SnailAnything, Thissa
??? -Blinx-->Blanx-->Blonxed
??? - SPAMMER
??? - IDIOTIC FAN
Gym Leader - Ultratowel112
Team Rocket - smwc

Moves

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Fissure - Your scumn
Tackle - Post
Recover - Edit
Quick Attack - Ninja Post
Crabhammer - Banhammer
Teleport - Log Out
Selfdestruct - Ban
Explosion - Permaban
Agility - Spambot
Mirror move - Emptyquote
Growth - Post Count
Fire Spin - Spinning Fire
Roar - CAPS LOCK
Confusion - idgi
Metronome - Meme
??? - Goatse
Smokescreen, Double Team - Lurk
Counter - Masterstroke
Splash - Mariofan1000
Amnesia - The Rest

Throw Rock - Troll
Throw Bait - Flamebait, Good Post
Shout - Spikyrat

Places

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Safari Zone - The Gazebo
Lavendar Town - The Graveyard

[Sillyman]

Done and done.

At least, the parts that there's no controversy about.

Also, the talkdex will probably want heights and weights and descriptions for all the talkmon.

[rubberfishy]

If a punch = a post then kilon should be hitmonchan because of the number of posts he can make per second.

[mariofan1000]

can I join

[tatanga]

can I join

you will be incorporated in some way probably don't worry

also here's a video of the intro script currently, feel free to offer suggestions on how to make it better:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvcSUMVOCC4

[tatanga]

Titles screen looks great introduction is good but I still think you should try editing the maps to make it an actual new game and not just a rename hack thing

But it's awesome any way and I am Bruno and Argu is Agatha I suppose I can live with that

Okay I will probably edit the maps some, however the overall way they all connect (ie world map) will remain the same for now, because I feel I'm not advanced enough to edit that yet. Also don't worry, it won't just be a text hack, all pokemon battles will be changed to have different pokemon with different moves, levels, etc. (for example, as Bruno, you won't have his pokemon, you'll choose from the 151 replacements which ones you want).

Also if anyone wants to help with scripting here's a quick tutorial:
Replacement script must use the exact same amount of tiles as original script (more will crash game, less will cause glitched tiles to appear)

However, there is a way around this. You can use empty tiles after each line break to use up any extra tiles, preventing the glitches. There is no work-around I know of to allow for more scripts than the original game.

You'll need a Pokemon Red ROM to help with scripts (if you have any problems with this PM me), simply follow these steps:
download the attached poketext
load your ROM
click on banks and find appropriate text to edit
test game using emulator

[rubberfishy]

Self destruct = Science
Fainting = Banned

[Blinx]

hey I have an idea how about we don't let idiots suggest things (rubberfishy is fine I'm more talking about real dumbasses like mariofan1000) or people who will just plug themselves or demand to be the legendary or whatever
also you should change the types if that's possible, like fire and water and shit

[kilon]

or people who will just plug themselves or demand to be the legendary or whatever

I wanna be Arceus..
wait..

No, it doesn't really matter to me. But if I'm a Zubat or any other boring overused pokemon I'm complaining.

One of the artists should be Vulpix -> Ninetales.

[tatanga]

also you should change the types if that's possible, like fire and water and shit

this is definitely possible, the hexadecimal values are pretty simple and easy to follow for the most part. I'm not making any changes to them yet, but be thinking about possible edits.

[trough]

I want to replace Magikarp or Charmander. :D Too bad I don't have a good avatar.

[Tsurugi]

I'm no good at hacking, but I'd like to volunteer my pixel-making abilities.

[tatanga]

I'm no good at hacking, but I'd like to volunteer my pixel-making abilities.

Great! For starters you should make a sprite from your avatar, that'll look awesome in the game! (If you want a character in it) I'm glad for any help I can get with spriting!

Okay here's some scripts if anyone wants to come up with replacements:
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Many POKéMON live
only in forests 
and caves.

You need to look
everywhere to get
different kinds!

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Have you noticed
the bushes on the
roadside?

They can be cut
down by a special
POKéMON move.

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I've 6 POKé BALLs
set in my belt.

At most, you can
carry 6 POKéMON.

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PALLET TOWN
Shades of your
journey await!

I'll be coming up with ideas for them, but I'm sure a lot of you can come up with better stuff so don't hesitate!

[Tsurugi]

Rough sprites, will be revised. Feedback welcome. Holy crap spriting with four colors is hard.

Anyway, I was hoping to be an Omanite/Omastar replacement. Although Water/Psychic makes more typing sense.

[tatanga]

Nice, looking really good! Feel free to touch up any sprite I post if you want. I really like those!

[cheez8]

If I remember correctly that Celadon City is the one with the casino, then Celadon City = Let's Play, or some variant of that.

[Argumentable]

Rough sprites, will be revised. Feedback welcome. Holy crap spriting with four colors is hard.

Anyway, I was hoping to be an Omanite/Omastar replacement. Although Water/Psychic makes more typing sense.

Now you just need back sprites

[Tsurugi]

Rough sprites, will be revised. Feedback welcome. Holy crap spriting with four colors is hard.

Anyway, I was hoping to be an Omanite/Omastar replacement. Although Water/Psychic makes more typing sense.

Now you just need back sprites

This is true. Oh no, this might actually be a lot of work!



Well, back sprites get, at any rate. Shading is odd on Spoon's hair, expect this to be fixed at some point.

[Time Traveler]

I should be Hypno or something

Drowzee = T
Hypno = TT

e: forget this post, I just realized the whole TT/BlackDS thing it's perfect