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Re: Rando Pokemon Tourney V Round 6

Postby bkamakaze » 1 week ago

Nah, that kinda goes against the spirit of randoms
I did what I could with what I was given, balanced or not.
I'm fine with taking the loss, no big deal

RNG is a fickle beast, yo
Gotta respect it, even when it kicks you in the face.
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Re: Rando Pokemon Tourney V Round 6

Postby Zephyr_DragonLord » 1 week ago

I also have no problem with this. I can redo a match or two.
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Re: Rando Pokemon Tourney V Round 6

Postby Ivy » 1 week ago

bkamakaze wrote: Nah, that kinda goes against the spirit of randoms
I did what I could with what I was given, balanced or not.
I'm fine with taking the loss, no big deal

RNG is a fickle beast, yo
Gotta respect it, even when it kicks you in the face.
This is understandable for the pure random battles (I took one or two silly RNG losses) but when you make your own team? no way man. Do the rematches!
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Re: Rando Pokemon Tourney V Round 6

Postby pholtos » 1 week ago

MonkeyShrapnel wrote:
Minnakht wrote:
Slimeman01 wrote:
Zephyr_DragonLord wrote:
Hope you guys get your matches done sometime within the next few days.
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Re: Rando Pokemon Tourney V Round 6

Postby Minnakht » 1 week ago

pholtos wrote: Hope you guys get your matches done sometime within the next few days.
The redeal of pokemen for this round is official, right?
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Re: Rando Pokemon Tourney V Round 6

Postby pholtos » 1 week ago

Minnakht wrote:
pholtos wrote: Hope you guys get your matches done sometime within the next few days.
The redeal of pokemen for this round is official, right?
For you and Zephy, it's up to you two.
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Re: Rando Pokemon Tourney V Round 6

Postby Slimeman01 » 1 week ago

Slimeman VS MonkeyShrapnel

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Monkey Takes it all



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Re: Rando Pokemon Tourney V Round 6

Postby MonkeyShrapnel » 1 week ago

Weakness Policy Rhyperior is OP.

Jirachi with Stealth Rocks and Iron Head is OP.

Nuff said.
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Re: Rando Pokemon Tourney V Round 6

Postby Zephyr_DragonLord » 1 week ago

We and Minna had our matches. I managed to be awake enough to do them. Was my head in the clouds too much, or did I manage to come down to earth enough to win...?

Match 1

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Match 2

2-0


Match 3

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Good games, Minna.

Add Lum Berry Haxorus to that OP list. I also can't believe that Unown actually did something there.... That wasn't a terrible rain team, really.

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Re: Rando Pokemon Tourney V Round 6

Postby pholtos » 1 week ago

Here were the round 6 teams:

bbbrrrr:
Dragonite
Goodra
Galvantula
Vileplume
Amoonguss
Glameow
Meowstic (Either gender is fine)
Turtonator
Emboar
Teddiursa
Budew
Rotom-C (Lawn Mower form)
bk:
Cherubi
Klink
Spritzee
Morelull
Togetic
Bunnelby
Flaaffy
Audino
Rhyhorn
Meganium
Mienshao
Beldum
Minna Old:
Solosis
Mimikyu
Steelix
Poliwrath
Empoleon
Manaphy
Pansage
Seismitoad
Throh
Starly
Kingler
Sylveon
Minna New:
Qwilfish
Goodra
Raticate
Serperior
Bruxish
Sawsbuck
Altaria
Jellicent
Zebstrika
Cherrim
Xatu
Swampert
Zephy Old:
Rockruff
Happiny
Wobbuffet
Pansear
Registeel
Minccino
Scrafty
Sawk
Lairon
Dusknoir
Pikachu
Oricorio-Pa'u
Zephy New:
Vaporeon
Vullaby
Flygon
Electivire
Rotom-Heat
Dusknoir
Entei
Unown
Haxorus
Rhyperior
Mudsdale
Moltres
I noticed just now vullaby somehow escaped my removal. Hopefully I won't have too many other mons slipping past in the future.
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Re: Rando Pokemon Tourney V Final Round

Postby pholtos » 1 week ago

bkamakaze wrote:
MonkeyShrapnel wrote:
Ivy wrote:
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Minnakht wrote:
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Ignoritus wrote:
bbbrrr_it_cold wrote:
Zephyr_DragonLord wrote:
Final Round

Only one randomized team fight for the last round. Good luck all.
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Re: Rando Pokemon Tourney V Final Round

Postby pholtos » 1 week ago

Me vs. Monkey

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Re: Rando Pokemon Tourney V Final Round

Postby MonkeyShrapnel » 1 week ago

First round was pretty good, but uh...

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Re: Rando Pokemon Tourney V Final Round

Postby pholtos » 1 week ago

Continual pokermon thoughts: Limiting the mons from PU tier to UU tier, thus removing BL and OU mons from getting picked.

I had been thinking about this a lot, and there are definitely quite a few mons that are just too good and are basically "always pick mons" and it just seems unfair to the lower tiers if I don't do something about that. :P
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Re: Rando Pokemon Tourney V Final Round

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pholtos wrote: Continual pokermon thoughts: Limiting the mons from PU tier to UU tier, thus removing BL and OU mons from getting picked.

I had been thinking about this a lot, and there are definitely quite a few mons that are just too good and are basically "always pick mons" and it just seems unfair to the lower tiers if I don't do something about that. :P
You could use the same level balancing system like in scripted random battles. With that you could even include Ubers at level 69 iirc
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Re: Rando Pokemon Tourney V Final Round

Postby pholtos » 1 week ago

Ivy wrote:
pholtos wrote: Continual pokermon thoughts: Limiting the mons from PU tier to UU tier, thus removing BL and OU mons from getting picked.

I had been thinking about this a lot, and there are definitely quite a few mons that are just too good and are basically "always pick mons" and it just seems unfair to the lower tiers if I don't do something about that. :P
You could use the same level balancing system like in scripted random battles. With that you could even include Ubers at level 69 iirc
I tried that but the problem is from my research there's multiple movesets per mon and as such multiple levels per mon so I've had difficulty finding a "level" for each mon/tier.
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Re: Rando Pokemon Tourney V Final Round

Postby Ignoritus » 1 week ago

im not a fan of limiting mons from OU, but I would agree that ubers should likely be pushed out
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Re: Rando Pokemon Tourney V Final Round

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Ignoritus wrote: im not a fan of limiting mons from OU, but I would agree that ubers should likely be pushed out
Basically along with the stupidly strong mons that are already banned, the following mons would be banned:
Alakazam
Azumarill
Bisharp
Breloom
Buzzwole
Celesteela
Chansey
Clefable
Conkeldurr
Diggersby
Dragonite
Dugtrio
Excadrill
Ferrothorn
Garchomp
Gengar
Greninja
Gyarados
Hawlucha
Heatran
Hoopa-Unbound
Kartana
Keldeo
Kingdra
Kyurem-Black
Landorus-Therian
Latios
Magearna
Magnezone
Manaphy
Marowak-Alola
Mew
Mimikyu
Ninetales-Alola
Pelipper
Porygon-Z
Salamence
Scolipede
Serperior
Skarmory
Staraptor
Tangrowth
Tapu Bulu
Tapu Fini
Tapu Koko
Tapu Lele
Thundurus
Thundurus-Therian
Tornadus-Therian
Toxapex
Tyranitar
Victini
Volcarona
Xurkitree
Zapdos
Zygarde
If you don't think that's a good idea, we can always reallow them, yes.
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Re: Rando Pokemon Tourney V Final Round

Postby bkamakaze » 1 week ago

i mostly agree with the limitation of ou mons

pros
ou mons are noticibly more powerful than the lower tiers, with their only real counters being other ou mons. tiers like ru and nu aren't seperated by a lot, and can hold their own in any of the lower tiers, but taking them into ou and suddenly they're drastically underpowered
also the redraw system would mostly favour the players just swapping out any non-ou mons in hopes of getting ou ones, despite different pokemon still being useful
cons
a LOT of lower tier pokemon rely on slower, stallier tactics, so it might promote a lot more long games as two walls bump into each other for half an hour

some of the pokemon in the banlist are really cute and getting banned might make them sad :c
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Re: Rando Pokemon Tourney V Final Round

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bkamakaze wrote: some of the pokemon in the banlist are really cute and getting banned might make them sad :c
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Re: Rando Pokemon Tourney V Final Round

Postby Ignoritus » 1 week ago

I think a lot of people tend to underestimate a lot of lower tier mons. There are a LOT of mons that will absolutely never see use, not because they're bad, but just because there's something that performs that role better. That doesn't mean those mons can't perform those roles, or are completely unusable by comparison, just that there's an alternative that will perform better in the vast majority of cases. I've used plenty of mons from all kinds of tiers in OU to good effect- they're just not as universal or may have slightly better alternatives is all.
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Re: Rando Pokemon Tourney V Final Round

Postby pholtos » 1 week ago

Ignoritus wrote: I think a lot of people tend to underestimate a lot of lower tier mons. There are a LOT of mons that will absolutely never see use, not because they're bad, but just because there's something that performs that role better. That doesn't mean those mons can't perform those roles, or are completely unusable by comparison, just that there's an alternative that will perform better in the vast majority of cases. I've used plenty of mons from all kinds of tiers in OU to good effect- they're just not as universal or may have slightly better alternatives is all.
What if only some of the OU/BL mons were eliminated from being played, maybe due to being too good on their own? I'm still fully open to just not removing any of them but maybe there are some mons that are a tad too strong. (Will be continuing this via PM so as not to flood this thread)
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Re: Rando Pokemon Tourney V Final Round

Postby bkamakaze » 1 week ago

bkamakaze VS HamsterZerg

ROUND 1 - http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7r ... -630598994

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ROUND 2 - http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7r ... -630600721

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WINNER -

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Re: Rando Pokemon Tourney V Final Round

Postby bbbrrr_it_cold » 1 week ago

bbbrrr_it_cold vs. Minnakht

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7ou-630779007

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http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7ou-630782302

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http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7ou-630784764

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Re: Rando Pokemon Tourney V Final Round

Postby Minnakht » 1 week ago

bbbrrr_it_cold wrote:

Look, man, I don't even care that I lost. I'm still laughing so hard at how that last round went.

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