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Super ASPE Mario - All Stars Puberty Edition

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Re: Super ASPE Mario - All Stars Parlous Edition

Postby Alice » 1 week ago

Raocow, did you ever try spinjumping on those fireball enemies? You only accidentally found you could kill them with shells so it seems like you didn't actually bother checking what ways you could kill them despite the fact you were going out of your way to get them out of your way.

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Re: Super ASPE Mario - All Stars Parlous Edition

Postby Ryrir » 1 week ago

Alice wrote: Raocow, did you ever try spinjumping on those fireball enemies? You only accidentally found you could kill them with shells so it seems like you didn't actually bother checking what ways you could kill them despite the fact you were going out of your way to get them out of your way.
It doesn't matter if you spin- or normal jump on them, they react the same way
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Re: Super ASPE Mario - All Stars Parlous Edition

Postby hanayamata » 1 week ago

Watch Out! Underground Exploration by Masacchi

A stage that would kill first time players, as described by the author. This stage had changes to it at least two times to make it easier. For example, below the koopa shell platforming section there were no floor tiles, and the switch was red, not yellow, meaning when you got here there was just a pit. The sprite was also recoded, the small form shot fireballs twice as fast, so avoiding them was almost based on luck.


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Re: Super ASPE Mario - All Stars Parlous Edition

Postby Alice » 1 week ago

Ryrir wrote: It doesn't matter if you spin- or normal jump on them, they react the same way
That's actually kinda surprising. Usually custom enemies just die when hit with a spinjump or act like you're spinjumping a thwomp or other enemy that's immune to it.

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Re: Super ASPE Mario - All Stars Parlous Edition

Postby raocow » 1 week ago

get hype for a two parter mario level tomorrow.

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Re: Super ASPE Mario - All Stars Parlous Edition

Postby Grounder » 1 week ago

aspe is a good hack u guise
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Re: Super ASPE Mario - All Stars Parlous Edition

Postby Zephyr_DragonLord » 1 week ago

ASPE is a pretty good romhack so far, actually. It just seems to have a difficulty cliff, and an occasional sense of power-up starvation, which is never good. Despite that, there haven't really been any bad levels, just levels with flaws in them that can be patched up fairly easily. (the original version of today's level sounds rather bad, though...) We'll see what the next level has to offer...
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Re: Super ASPE Mario - All Stars Parlous Edition

Postby zagesaw » 1 week ago

Tomorrow contains possibly the worst level I've ever played in a rom hack in awhile. I can easily understand why it's a two parter. The normal exit is fine for the most part, not great but not too awful.

The secret exit makes Simple Path and Flash Black from VLDC9 look amazing in comparison though.

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Re: Super ASPE Mario - All Stars Parlous Edition

Postby Divemissile » 1 week ago

is aspe pronounced 'ahsp' or 'aysp'

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Postby Ivy » 1 week ago

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Re: Super ASPE Mario - All Stars Pseudolatry Edition

Postby jayScribble » 1 week ago

Ah yes, the

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Re: Super ASPE Mario - All Stars Pseudolatry Edition

Postby morsel/morceau » 1 week ago

I suppose I can understand someone giving up at 2-2, because you have to beat that level to make progress, but giving up because of a secret exit seems silly. You can play lots of other levels without worrying about it and, if you like, come back to it later when you have the time or inclination and eventually grind it out (and I did precisely this when I played this hack). I would like to say I look forward to raocow's effort at it, but I fear the charms of climbing the cloudy summit might not lend themselves to an lp video.
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Re: Super ASPE Mario - All Stars Pseudolatry Edition

Postby Ryrir » 1 week ago

It's really too bad, because I feel like this level is another one of those "missed opportunity" cases. If the author would have decided on either the fog or the wind, or even if he would have made the fog just a bit more transparent, it wouldn't be nearly as bad.

It's the classical morsel syndrome (no offense buddy), where the idea itself is actually kinda clever and the level design has some cool spots as well (for example the part where you climb from rope to rope under an overhang is legit super neat), but the execution is just way too hard to be enjoyable.

I also feel like this is something that raocow in particular would have more trouble with than the average person - the level took me closer to 30min to complete rather than two hours

There are 53 exits in this game, out of which I strongly disliked four. Underground Exploration and Summit of the Gods are out of the way, so only two more?
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Re: Super ASPE Mario - All Stars Pseudolatry Edition

Postby zagesaw » 1 week ago

morsel/morceau wrote: I suppose I can understand someone giving up at 2-2, because you have to beat that level to make progress, but giving up because of a secret exit seems silly. You can play lots of other levels without worrying about it and, if you like, come back to it later when you have the time or inclination and eventually grind it out (and I did precisely this when I played this hack).

It's just that other than 2-1, the hack has left a really bad first impression on me with these two levels and especially this secret exit. For World 2 difficulty something like this is just inexcusable. Because it is World 2, I would expect Worlds 3 and 4 only to get significantly worse.

I still think this exit is the worst experience I've played in awhile because the author took the gimmick idea way too far, and made it so incredibly unfun to play. I tried to grind this exit out but dying right at the very end was pretty rage inducing after grinding it for a few hours.
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Re: Super ASPE Mario - All Stars Pseudolatry Edition

Postby The Doctor » 1 week ago

morsel/morceau wrote: I suppose I can understand someone giving up at 2-2, because you have to beat that level to make progress, but giving up because of a secret exit seems silly.

You have two brutally hard and unfair levels at the beginning of world 2 back to back. My thoughts were that if the game is this hard and unfun at such an early point, what horrors will the late game contain?

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Re: Super ASPE Mario - All Stars Pseudolatry Edition

Postby Zephyr_DragonLord » 1 week ago

Normal exit in Summit of the Gods is just fine. Secret exit is something else...
It's kind of justified, as it is supposed to be a secret in one way or another, and I see what the author was going for... but poor visibility and wind just kills levels off on its lonesome.

I would have liked if there was a gradient to these effects, with only the ending being this bad. Then we might have both a challenging and interesting secret exit. I'm thinking this is just a sour spot in the hack, and that it gets better, like all those anime people that get crushed by buses. They all get better somehow... no bus stains or anything.
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Re: Super ASPE Mario - All Stars Pseudolatry Edition

Postby swishyfeather » 1 week ago

oh boy, this hack! I remember this exit. eheheh. Looking forward to part B!

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Re: Super ASPE Mario - All Stars Pseudolatry Edition

Postby tirakai » 1 week ago

I think raocow was invisible for more time this video than he is in the entirely of

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Re: Super ASPE Mario - All Stars Pseudolatry Edition

Postby Grounder » 1 week ago


Why don't you eat me?

I am perfectly tasty...

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Re: Super ASPE Mario - All Stars Pseudolatry Edition

Postby Voltgloss » 1 week ago

I lost respect for this hack today.

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Re: Super ASPE Mario - All Stars Pseudolatry Edition

Postby Alice » 1 week ago

That level was just too much. Wind, ice, fog that's far worse than the game's normal fog effect (seriously there's like a solid 40-60% of your screen covered at any given time just by the completely opaque parts, that's not even mentioning the partly transparent parts), and on top of that there's all the little things too such as all the one tile jumps, the finickiness of the vines, and the fact that you effectively erase the level behind you leaving a bottomless pit. Just 2-3 of these details would result in the level being stressful and boring in the wrong ways but all of them together are just asking too much and result in an experience that I honestly would have trouble believing anyone could honestly enjoy.

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Re: Super ASPE Mario - All Stars Pseudolatry Edition

Postby zagesaw » 1 week ago

This is the worst level I've played in a rom hack that isn't an intentional joke/kaizo hack. I'd expect this crap in 100 MC Super Expert and not in a collab hack by apparently "good" Japanese level designers. I could have just turned off the BG layer off or use savestates or anything, but what's the point? Why continue giving this hack a chance after such a horrendous World 2? People who've completed this hack... Does it honestly get better?

EDIT: I've managed to clear the level today after about 20ish attempts. I still dislike the level immensely, but now I guess I can enjoy the rest of the hack assuming it won't get as bad.
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Re: Super ASPE Mario - All Stars Pseudolatry Edition

Postby BobisOnlyBob » 1 week ago

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Re: Super ASPE Mario - All Stars Pseudolatry Edition

Postby Tyty » 1 week ago

Honestly I would've just turned layer 3 off. Screw all that noise.

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Re: Super ASPE Mario - All Stars Pseudolatry Edition

Postby SAJewers » 1 week ago

IMO even if it was just the fog, it's be too much.
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