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Mata Hari wrote:How often do people run Pokemon that actually evolve because it seems like there are a hell of a lot of ridiculous basics these days
Greninja Break is a top tier deck that uses evolution pokemon (fuck that deck) also several pokemon do have mega evolutions in the tcg
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People actually PLAY the card game!?
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TheFinalSentinel wrote:People actually PLAY the card game!?
Yes, although almost all of my cards are gen 4 or earlier... basically useless for actual game-play.
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If I had the extra cash and a place to stash them, I'd go on a collecting binge, never mind the actual card game
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Collecting is honestly the best thing about the game.
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I used to collect them a lot back when second gen Pokemon games came out but every time I'd amass a sizeable amount, something would happen and they'd either be scattered to the winds (I lost them) or they'd get irreparably damaged. This has happened something like five times in my life :/
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We had some lady come in for a class today and talk about the library and whatnot. She was a librarian so she was basically trying to save her job by telling students that they need to use the library more because the internet is full of lies and also gave the "Wikipedia is a bad source because anyone can edit it" spiel you've probably heard 1000 times.

My favorite part of the presentation though, was all of the "funny memes" she had in her powerpoint. She would put up some meme related to what she was talking about, and then have the "source" next to it, and the source was always a giant, 5-line long Yahoo search URL. Like, she would post a link to the search results page instead of the image itself. So not only was it absurdly long, but you could also see what she searched to find the image. And it was always just whatever the slide was about followed by "meme." So she had a slide about citing sources and plagiarism with a meme, and then a URL that was like search.yahoo.com/search?p=... and within the URL you could see like "plagiarism+meme"

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Ashan wrote:and then have the "source" next to it, and the source was always a giant, 5-line long Yahoo search URL. Like, she would post a link to the search results page instead of the image itself.
Sounds like someone missed the lesson on how to cite internet sources
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Ashan wrote:We had some lady come in for a class today and talk about the library and whatnot. She was a librarian so she was basically trying to save her job by telling students that they need to use the library more because the internet is full of lies and also gave the "Wikipedia is a bad source because anyone can edit it" spiel you've probably heard 1000 times.
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There is no serious risk of university libraries becoming obsolete, since serious academic research will always require specialized sources not readily accessible to (or of much interest to) the general public. As such, she was hardly trying to "save her job", she was dimply trying to help you yutzes develop some measure of basic research skills so you don't come to us poor, benighted book bandiers in a panic a week before your term paper is do and shout "AAAAAAAH HELP ME I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I'M DOING". Which happens every, every semester. Don't get me wrong--the internet is a great tool for research, and Wikipedia is an excellent way to get a very general introduction of a topic, but if you want to seriously research a subject, you're going to have to go a little deeper, and this involves taking an ickle rambly-poo to the lie-berry, so it's helpful to know what the Sam Hill you're doing ahead of time. I do shake my head a touch at the one university library I worked at ultimately changing the sign above the circulation desk from "circulation" to "customer service" due to the large number of folks we had coming up to us asking where the could "rent books". So a little mandatory instruction on how a library works? Probably not a bad thing.

I cannot condone the usage of memes (especially incompetently linked memes) in service of such, but I can only assume this was another woefully misamed attempt to appeal to what kids these days would find hep, bonza and crackerjack. Count yourself lucky that you were spared a backwards-hatted, be-sunglassed book riding a skateboard.
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The thing that gets me is that Wikipedia is actually a great source for sources; basically, you scroll down to references and there's a list of pages where they got their information, you can read through 'em yourself.

Also it amuses me when an adult uses a meme. It's like getting a Skype call from your grandparent but they don't realise they can speak in normal tones so they keep shouting
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Coryman wrote:The thing that gets me is that Wikipedia is actually a great source for sources; basically, you scroll down to references and there's a list of pages where they got their information, you can read through 'em yourself.
Not just webpages; there's usually a good number of print sources there, too! It's actually not a bad jumping-off point at all, but this is sort of assuming the very research skills newer students are supposed to be learning. We're very good at bashing citation formats into their heads, but never really explain why citing sources is important on a practical level (beyond "plagiarize and we'll moidalize ya!") or, say, how to follow a reference to verify a quote or statement, or simply to research a topic further. Because this is all supposed to be obvious or something, I guess. When you've been doing this sort of thing for years, it's easy to forget just how opaque it can be to a newcomer. But if you're going to be teaching a subject, that's exactly the sort of thing you have to take into account.
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Le Neveu de Rameau wrote:We're very good at bashing citation formats into their heads, but never really explain why citing sources is important on a practical level
sounds like math education
"this table of numbers is important so you should memorize it"
"why? what does it mean?"
"you'll use it when you're older"

also: any advice or forwarding service recommendations for importing from Japan? i'm looking to buy some CDs and i'm wondering just how many hurdles i'd have to jump through. a couple services that i've looked at make it seem easy, but that's kind of how marketing works.
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Le Neveu de Rameau wrote:
Ashan wrote:We had some lady come in for a class today and talk about the library and whatnot. She was a librarian so she was basically trying to save her job by telling students that they need to use the library more because the internet is full of lies and also gave the "Wikipedia is a bad source because anyone can edit it" spiel you've probably heard 1000 times.
Former library clerk and current aspiring academic checking in:

There is no serious risk of university libraries becoming obsolete, since serious academic research will always require specialized sources not readily accessible to (or of much interest to) the general public. As such, she was hardly trying to "save her job", she was dimply trying to help you yutzes develop some measure of basic research skills so you don't come to us poor, benighted book bandiers in a panic a week before your term paper is do and shout "AAAAAAAH HELP ME I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I'M DOING". Which happens every, every semester. Don't get me wrong--the internet is a great tool for research, and Wikipedia is an excellent way to get a very general introduction of a topic, but if you want to seriously research a subject, you're going to have to go a little deeper, and this involves taking an ickle rambly-poo to the lie-berry, so it's helpful to know what the Sam Hill you're doing ahead of time. I do shake my head a touch at the one university library I worked at ultimately changing the sign above the circulation desk from "circulation" to "customer service" due to the large number of folks we had coming up to us asking where the could "rent books". So a little mandatory instruction on how a library works? Probably not a bad thing.

I cannot condone the usage of memes (especially incompetently linked memes) in service of such, but I can only assume this was another woefully misamed attempt to appeal to what kids these days would find hep, bonza and crackerjack. Count yourself lucky that you were spared a backwards-hatted, be-sunglassed book riding a skateboard.
You just wrote a paragraph response to a throwaway joke line. I don't actually think she was trying to save her job, but she definitely has a vested interest. But I appreciate your passion.
The main point of my post was the dumb memes and hilariously long URL citations.
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Ashan wrote:dumb memes
Isn't this a bit redundant to say?
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Ashan wrote:You just wrote a paragraph response to a throwaway joke line. I don't actually think she was trying to save her job, but she definitely has a vested interest. But I appreciate your passion.
The main point of my post was the dumb memes and hilariously long URL citations.
I know; that's why my post was so uncharacteristically brief!

Seriously, though, jokes do not arise in a vacuum*, and their subjects (no matter how tongue-in-cheek the lampooning is meant) reflect the social conditions which surround the teller and presumed audience. And your joke--mournful, mis-linked meme-mongering and all--was very illustrative of the disconnect between faculty and students when teaching research skills. And research skills are an especially important topic today--when you're flooded with as much information as we tend to be, how do you find what you're actually looking for? And how do you sort the good sources from the bad? Getting caught up in formalities, citation formats, etc. (which are often slow to adapt to new media), as contemporary instruction tends to do, not only misses the point, it alienates students and causes them to ask, "Why do we need to jump through these hoops, dear instructor, when you're the only one who's going to be reading this?" And that's hardly the attitude you want your newer generations to have with regards to source-citing. We live in an age where, on the one hand, verifying facts and statements is easier than it's every been, and yet, on the other hand, where misinformation has never had a greater potential to spread like wildfire. So you need to make sure that the folks you're sending out into the world are properly equipped to cut through and push back against the refuse. Unfortunately, the scenario you described--and the reaction it would seem to have called forth--was the exact opposite of what was needed. A noble sentiment, to be sure, but suffocated in the noxious miasma of the Poochy Approach, its body falling down to depths of the bog to putrefy and nourish the unwholesome muck bubbling and churning around it. And if that commissions cackles, charters chuckles, and galvanizes guffaws, they can only be of the mirthless variety.

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rameau whats ur opinion on chemtrails
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Alice wrote:
Ashan wrote:dumb memes
Isn't this a bit redundant to say?
Nah, there are smart memes.

In fact, it's the point of increasingly verbose.
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idol wrote:rameau whats ur opinion on chemtrails
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Alice wrote:
Ashan wrote:dumb memes
Isn't this a bit redundant to say?
Amen to that. I feel, sometimes, like I'm the only person on the net who doesn't find 99% of memes even remotely funny.

I mean, I like lolcats and doge (and I find it inherently amusing, on that subject, that "lolcats" is apparently considered a valid word and is not underlined as "incorrect" by Firefox), but it's mostly because it's... well, cute cats and dogs. And I am a sucker for cute.
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Memes grow stale really quickly, but I appreciate them for what they are.
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It occurred to me that I'm eligible to run for President of the United States in 2024, since I'll be 35 before Inauguration Day 2025.
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raekuul wrote:It occurred to me that I'm eligible to run for President of the United States in 2024, since I'll be 35 before Inauguration Day 2025.
Nice, but it'll be tough trumping Kanye's re-election campaign.
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"meme" can mean basically anything at this point so saying "I don't like memes" is like saying "I don't like jokes"
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